Good idea, recommend it.
It isn't just a matter of what you can get away with, it is simple that most everything is perfectly legal. It is the legal compliance model pioneered by Swingers Clubs.
So in those clubs, groping is standard. Anything consensual goes, as it is private, not retail.
Now LE could try to say that it is going into the realm of prostitution, and there is not an exemption from the criminal laws like that. But LE has to be able to prove it. In fact it is very hard for them to even get a public mandate to expend time and resources on it.
The Private Party / Membership Club model gets you around zoning. And zoning is why in many places it is impossible to open any more clubs, and so Deja Vu has taken over and propagates it's clip joint model.
The Private Party / Membership Club model works when you don't yet have the participation level to warrant or afford a space 7 days a week.
But there is a legal formula to it. We need the software, the actual paper work. We need to be able to stand up for ourselves if challenged by LE. They will try to say that it is a retail business hence subject to licensing, zoning, and the public sex and lewd conduct prohibition. They will also say that the women and some others are paid staff, so that is subject to labor laws and CA's AB-5.
We need to have the written rules and policies and the contracts people sign, to make it clear that this is not the case. Everyone is a member and party guest only.
This is what I want to see, the paper work. And I want to know about more people who are doing this.
If we do this, we can have venues as good as Tijuana.
SJG
Strange Kind of Women - Perfect Strangers - live at La Grande Ourse Concert Hall
(this is so extremely good and so close to the original artist's recording)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfLYvbRi0zA
Shirley Manson & Christine Hynde (The Pretenders) - Only Happy When It Rains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfc3oOhxrKA
The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter - 2013 School of Rock AllStars Team 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we-3Y3vhIhk
Good idea, recommend it.
It isn't just a matter of what you can get away with, it is simple that most everything is perfectly legal. It is the legal compliance model pioneered by Swingers Clubs.
So in those clubs, groping is standard. Anything consensual goes, as it is private, not retail.
Now LE could try to say that it is going into the realm of prostitution, and there is not an exemption from the criminal laws like that. But LE has to be able to prove it. In fact it is very hard for them to even get a public mandate to expend time and resources on it.
The Private Party / Membership Club model gets you around zoning. And zoning is why in many places it is impossible to open any more clubs, and so Deja Vu has taken over and propagates it's clip joint model.
The Private Party / Membership Club model works when you don't yet have the participation level to warrant or afford a space 7 days a week.
But there is a legal formula to it. We need the software, the actual paper work. We need to be able to stand up for ourselves if challenged by LE. They will try to say that it is a retail business hence subject to licensing, zoning, and the public sex and lewd conduct prohibition. They will also say that the women and some others are paid staff, so that is subject to labor laws and CA's AB-5.
We need to have the written rules and policies and the contracts people sign, to make it clear that this is not the case. Everyone is a member and party guest only.
This is what I want to see, the paper work. And I want to know about more people who are doing this.
If we do this, we can have venues as good as Tijuana.
SJG
Strange Kind of Women - Perfect Strangers - live at La Grande Ourse Concert Hall
(this is so extremely good and so close to the original artist's recording)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfLYvbRi0zA
Shirley Manson & Christine Hynde (The Pretenders) - Only Happy When It Rains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfc3oOhxrKA
The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter - 2013 School of Rock AllStars Team 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we-3Y3vhIhk